Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscribers (personal accounts)
712 points by jameslk 7 days ago | 184 comments
tl;dr: Google's paid Gemini subscriptions still use personal chat history to train AI models by default, with a subset reviewed by humans and retained up to three years even after deletion. The only way to opt out is disabling "Keep Activity," which also wipes chat history after 72 hours. Google explicitly warns users not to enter confidential information, contradicting the common assumption that paying for AI services exempts you from being the product.
HN Discussion:
  • ↑Offers workarounds like Notebooks, local models, or disabling activity to preserve privacy
  • ~This is unsurprising and expected behavior from Google and other data-driven companies
  • ↓All frontier AI providers do this, so singling out Google is misleading
  • ↑The problem is worse than stated, as it also cripples Pixel phone functionality and app integrations
  • ↑Users should assume everything typed is stored forever regardless of TOS or payment