Apple reveals 'shocking evidence' from ex-employee's MacBook in OpenAI suit(9to5mac.com)
241 points by colinprince 8 days ago | 186 comments
tl;dr: Apple filed new evidence in its trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI and former engineer Chang Liu, claiming forensic analysis of Liu's MacBook shows he downloaded a confidential Apple circuit schematic and used it in LTspice simulations at OpenAI, allegedly feeding it to an AI agent. Apple also alleges Liu instructed an OpenAI colleague to destroy evidence after learning of Apple's internal investigation. Apple is using the findings to push for expedited discovery and access to a related Mac mini that synced to the laptop via iCloud.
HN Discussion:
  • Summarizes the specific allegations against Liu, reinforcing the article's factual claims
  • Notes the novel legal argument about AI training on trade secrets creating irreversible propagation
  • Raises privacy concerns about iCloud syncing between personal and company devices
  • Compares OpenAI unfavorably to companies like Pepsi that reported IP theft attempts
  • Points out hypocrisy in Apple's trade secret argument given AI companies' fair use stance on training data