More German than many Germans(mertbulan.com)
631 points by mertbio 72 days ago | 487 comments
tl;dr: A Turkish developer recounts moving to Hamburg in 2017 for an internship, describing how the reality of German culture—trust, flat hierarchies, inclusion, and structured rules—contrasted sharply with the stereotypes he'd grown up hearing. Over eight years he integrated through work rather than deliberate effort, learned German after deciding to stay, and eventually obtained citizenship under the recently shortened five-year eligibility rule. He acknowledges his experience was privileged (English-speaking corporate environment, good salary) and not representative of most immigrants' harder landings.
HN Discussion:
  • ↑Fellow immigrants share similar positive integration experiences and appreciation for German rules and order
  • ↑Germans express gratitude and hope the country stays welcoming amid rising far-right politics
  • ~Growing disillusionment with Germany's political and cultural direction despite good living conditions
  • ~Rules create clarity but also enable rigid NPC-like behavior and bureaucratic dysfunction
  • ↓Citizenship requirements described as strict are actually relatively easy compared to other countries