Why skilled workers come to Germany and then leave again(dw.com)
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tl;dr: A German IAB study found that skilled immigrants leave Germany primarily due to bureaucratic friction (slow visa/naturalization processing, credential recognition delays, high fees), inadequate language support, discrimination, and job mismatches where workers end up in roles below their qualifications. About 60% return home while 40% relocate to competing European countries like Spain and Switzerland. Recruiters argue that pre-arrival German language training and better retention infrastructure—such as the planned federal "Work and Stay" agency—are needed, since English-only pathways rarely lead to sustainable employment in Germany.
HN Discussion:
  • Limited upward mobility and reserved culture prevent immigrants from reaching leadership positions regardless of language skills
  • Social exclusion and lack of belonging make immigrants feel unwelcome even after citizenship
  • Germany's infrastructure decay, economic crisis, and declining conditions make staying less attractive
  • German presumptuousness and outdated self-image prevent acknowledging real problems
  • ~Language learning is essential responsibility of immigrants, though Germans switch to German in social settings excluding expats